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  Where did Jesus get the Idea of an After-life in Heaven?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
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  the ancient jews did not believe in an after-life as far as i can tell, correct me if i'm wrong.

  the watchtower says yes.

  they say all the prophets believed in a paradise earth..

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  Cute avatar nibbled.
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  Child Abuse - "I don't care. I haven't got any children".

  by cofty in

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  2. beliefs

  earlier this week i bumped into a couple of jws who i recognised from the cult cart.

  a few months ago i had a long conversation with him one of them and found him to be quite friendly.

  he is new to the area in the years since i left.. this time he was very defensive and said he wasn't allowed to talk to me.

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  cofty:

  "I don't care, I don't have any children"

  That person sounds like a psychopath, literally speaking.

  
  

  Amelia Ashton

  "My youngest daughter was lured into a van by a paedophile who was someone we had all trusted as he visited our little gated community every week delivering water.

  "One of my neighbour's who also happened to be a Policewoman managed to get him barred from our section but one couple stated he hadn't hurt them so they would still be letting him in to their side of estate to deliver their water."

  Same thing, psychopaths are pretty common.
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  Breaking news: US mass shooting

  by Simon in

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  2. current

  it's getting to the point where cnn should start announcing "breaking news" if there *hasn't* been a mass shooting !.

  it's crazy.. i was watching the 70's documentary they are running and that's the point when media hype about mass serial killers seemed to begin the danger-gun-solution hype cycle.

  sure, people had guns before then but nowhere near like it is now.. when will it end?

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  I believe that most mass shootings are due to the copycat effect that inspires others when such shootings are (unavoidably) sensationalized by the media.
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  Where did Jesus get the Idea of an After-life in Heaven?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the ancient jews did not believe in an after-life as far as i can tell, correct me if i'm wrong.

  the watchtower says yes.

  they say all the prophets believed in a paradise earth..

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  John Aquila:

  "I wonder if this is what was referred to in Peter;

  "(1 Peter 3:19) . . .In this [state] also he went his way and preached to the spirits in prison. . ."

  I'm sure it is though I doubt that one in a thousand Christians would know that.
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  DOES BELIEF IN THE BIBLE DESTROY ONE'S INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY?

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  based on information to be found at: http://www.csicop.org/si/show/when_dont_the_highly_educated_believe_in_evolution_the_bible_believers_effe/.

  the bible-believers effect.

  those who believe the bible is the word of god (bible believers) and those who dont believe the bible is the word of god (bible nonbelievers) differ in their beliefs that humans evolved from earlier species of animals.

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  Does Biblical belief destroy one's intellectual ability? My answer is maybe. It depends on the person and their personality. I know a scientist who is an Evangelical Christian (but not young Earth Creationist). He has a saying that science and religion should remain a 100 yards from each other.

  They seem to be able to compartmentalize their beliefs keeping the science far apart from the religion.
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  Did the society official track each member of the 144,000?

  by Bob Loblaw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i left witness land in the early 90's, i remember hearing that out of 144,000 anointed members that there were only 8 to 9 thousand left and then the end will come.. i'm suddenly curious.

  the jw organization is one that puts emphasis on tracking, i.e., regular meeting attendance, current standing, field service hours, territory tracking, return visits, etc.

  therefore, did the society ever try to track each and every member of the 144,000?

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  Where did Jesus get the Idea of an After-life in Heaven?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the ancient jews did not believe in an after-life as far as i can tell, correct me if i'm wrong.

  the watchtower says yes.

  they say all the prophets believed in a paradise earth..

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  John Aquila:

  "The Ancient Jews did not believe in an after-life as far as I can tell, correct me if I'm wrong."

  Not quite. Ancient Hebrews believed in a eternal spirit (ruach) that upon death would descend down into Sheol which was considered to be the underworld were the spirits of all persons, good and evil, went. They were to be in a spiritual coma so to speak, sleeping - not conscious but living.

  At some point Judaism (except for Sadducees) borrowed the concept of a resurrection from the Zoroastrians and divided Sheol, known as Hades in the Greek, in which the immortal spirits were to be eventually united with their bodies. Those spirits or souls were later considered to be conscious in anticipation of their resurrection.

  Hades was then divided into two sections, one for the righteous and one for the evil. The area of the underworld that was reserved for the righteous was called "Paradise" and the area for the evil was called Gehenna. Both were to be a small foretaste of the post-resurrection afterlife. Now recall Jesus telling the thief on the cross that he would be with him in "Paradise" on the same day.(The New World Translation fucked that verse up by placing the comma where it doesn't belong in Luke 23:43).

  It was later on that Paradise was transferred to heaven giving us the simplistic concept of the afterlife that most people currently believe in.
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  Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel

  by _Morpheus in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.

  rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.

  q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?

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  "MY post was meant for Morpheus. Why am I beating dead horse, sort of speak. Support your views about my post"

  by _Morpheus 5 days ago 308 Replies latest a minute ago
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  Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel

  by _Morpheus in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.

  rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.

  q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?

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  Im ready to leave

  by SpunkedTeen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just found this website and im so glad because for the first time in a long time i dont feel alone...i am a born in and in the last two years have been struggling because i thought that i was the problem and i was the reason for not feeling any love from and for the other pubs .i want to leave the org but have no idea how to tell my mother(who is a faithful jw).

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  Welcome Spunky. Don't open your mouth yet. Just coast along until you can figure out how you're going to do things.

  You mentioned your mother; what about your father?